{"id":158618,"date":"2022-10-04T03:44:54","date_gmt":"2022-10-04T08:44:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/?p=158618"},"modified":"2022-10-05T03:57:37","modified_gmt":"2022-10-05T08:57:37","slug":"council-committee-discusses-annexation-council-rules","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/2022\/10\/04\/council-committee-discusses-annexation-council-rules\/","title":{"rendered":"Committee talks annexation, council rules"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>SCOTT TRUXELL\/<\/strong><em>independent editor<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It appears the issue of forced annexation in Van Wert is dead, at least for the time being.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During Monday night\u2019s meeting of Van Wert City Council\u2019s Judiciary and Annexation Committee, committee members Bill Marshall and Judy Bowers voiced their opposition to the idea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cTo do something along these lines will encumber a lot of heartache \u2013 legal heartache,\u201d Marshall stated. \u201cI\u2019m against proposing something along these lines. Maybe somewhere down the road many years past when I\u2019ll be here something will come about that will create that possibility but for right now, no.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-full\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"350\" height=\"366\" src=\"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Jeff-Agler-10-3-2022-e1664960238693.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-158617\"\/><figcaption>Van Wert City Councilman Jeff Agler talks about forced annexation during Monday&#8217;s Judiciary and Annexation Committee meeting. <em>Scott Truxell\/Van Wert independent<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s going to cost the city more than it\u2019s worth financially,\u201d Bowers said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Committee Chairman Andrew Davis also noted any fight over forced annexation would be an expensive one from a legal standpoint and expressed hesitation over the idea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s going to be a time where maybe the city is in a financial place where they can purchase those properties when people decide to leave,\u201d Davis said. \u201cThey can buy those properties, annex them in and market them for sale but right now, we\u2019re not in a position any more than we\u2019re in a position to take every island property in the city to court and go through that process. My opinion is that would be less than beneficial to us at this point.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The topic was first brought up last month by First Ward Councilman Jeff Agler, who noted several properties along West Main St. across from Danfoss are within city boundaries, but are part of Pleasant Township instead of the city. He said one of the properties in particular, Brown Auto, is considered an eyesore.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, Pleasant Township Trustees recently issued the business a notice of a zoning ordinance violation for weeds and junk vehicles and said the property will be re-evaluated at the October 26 meeting of the trustees to see if any progress has been made to correct the violations. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>It was noted by Marshall and others at the meeting that work is indeed being done to clean up the property.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A handful of people were in attendance at the meeting, including Century Trading owners Doug and Marcia Germann, who previously stated they would fight any attempt at forced annexation. They voiced their objection again and said they keep their property as clean as possible. They also said while they\u2019re not considered inside the city, they\u2019re already tapped into city water and pay double the normal rate, along with sewer, despite the fact they don\u2019t use city sewer services.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe want to preserve our livelihood and we would like to be respected to be able to preserve our livelihood,\u201d Marcia Germann said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Several similar properties, referred to as islands, are along Ervin Road. Agler said those properties should be annexed into the city as well, but the discussion ended due to a lack of interest by the committee members.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The committee also heard from Davis about amending or modifying Council rules, specifically <a href=\"https:\/\/codelibrary.amlegal.com\/codes\/vanwert\/latest\/vanwert_oh\/0-0-0-18781\">Chapter 30<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve had requests from people to look into trying to\u2026I don\u2019t want to say streamline, but professionalize our meetings,\u201d Davis explained. \u201cI\u2019ve had people bring up the fact that we should operate more as a business meeting. Ultimately there are a lot of things already in the council rules that are antiquated that we don\u2019t use currently.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Many of those rules discussed were procedural, including consent agenda rules and preparing legislation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cSome of the rules don\u2019t fit in the modern world,\u201d Law Director John Hatcher said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A particular area that did get some attention was a three minute time limit by council members during discussion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhen we have a topic we want to talk about we need to have the time to talk about it,\u201d Davis said. \u201cAll of our meetings have to happen in the open, we can\u2019t have a meeting behind closed doors, so this is our opportunity if we have a sensitive topic that comes up that we need to spend a half hour on, we should have a half hour to talk about it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hatcher chimed and noted the Council President should have the ability to set rules for debate, but council members should also be able to modify that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Davis also stated there should be more decorum during council meetings, including no one talking over another during a discussion, which has been an issue at times this year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt should be one person saying their piece, it should be the next person saying their piece and we should move around the room in a very cordial manner,\u201d he said. \u201cIt may not seem like it, but it\u2019s very important to understand who could be watching these meetings, from the perspective of potential economic developers and things like that, who may be looking at Van Wert as an option to move here. They need to have the ability to watch these meetings and know that we have the ability to handle ourselves in a professional manner.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The topic of hearing from the public during meetings was briefly discussed by the committee.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The current rule allows any member of the audience to speak on any agenda item, once council members and\/or the administration have had their say. The overwhelming majority of all other governing bodies set aside time for members of the public to speak during a public participation portion of the agenda, usually toward the beginning of the meeting, before moving on to the business portion of the agenda. Some require written notice in advance in order to speak at a meeting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Davis said a possible change would allow public comments to when a particular agenda item is introduced and would conclude after that. He pointed to recent discussions about junk and weed ordinances that became less than orderly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cMy goal in this is not to curb discussion, it\u2019s to isolate issues,\u201d he said. \u201cWe talk about it, we have the discussion and then we move to the next thing. We don\u2019t revisit it later on.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>More discussion on possible changes will come at future meetings.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SCOTT TRUXELL\/independent editor It appears the issue of forced annexation in Van Wert is dead, at least for the time being. During Monday night\u2019s meeting of Van Wert City Council\u2019s Judiciary and Annexation Committee, committee members Bill Marshall and Judy Bowers voiced their opposition to the idea. \u201cTo do something along these lines will encumber [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-158618","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"publishpress_future_action":{"enabled":false,"date":"2026-10-24 21:20:04","action":"change-status","newStatus":"draft","terms":[],"taxonomy":"category","extraData":[]},"publishpress_future_workflow_manual_trigger":{"enabledWorkflows":[]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/158618","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=158618"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/158618\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":158679,"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/158618\/revisions\/158679"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=158618"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=158618"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thevwindependent.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=158618"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}